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Podcast 72 – Moms with Moxie: Air Traffic Controller, Pilot and Homeopath

Joette Calabrese, HMC, PHom M

April 18th, 2019  |  1 Comment

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Joette Calabrese


06:48    Homeopathy’s role in an air traffic controller’s life

09:06    Car accident

12:06    Childbirth story, cell salts, & Arnica

18:43    Keep learning, keep sharing and keep a remedy kit




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Kate:  This is the Practical Homeopathy® Podcast Episode Number 72.

Joette:  Each day from my office, I get to see how homeopathy is transforming lives all over the globe, and I want to share them with you. Some of my students have really caught my eye. Some of you have done all you can to learn how to cure those around you using homeopathic medicines, and your successes inspire me. They’re glorious and powerful, and I can’t keep these successes a secret any longer. So, with help from my roving reporters, we bring you a mini-podcast series that I call “Moms with Moxie.” Sometimes we even interview “Dads with Audacity.” See how regular mothers and others, average people who want to cure those around them, have gone from freaking to fabulous with homeopathy.


Kate:  Hi! This is Kate, and I’m here today with Mary. I’m looking forward to some of the things that Mary is going to be sharing with us. So welcome, Mary, to the podcast.


Mary:  Thanks, Kate. Great to be here!


Kate:  Great to have you. All right, let’s get to know you a little bit. Can you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?


Mary:  I’m a retired air traffic controller, and also, I’m a private pilot. Well, I’m a commercial pilot — that’s a different rating. So, I used to tell the pilots what to do and fly for fun.


Kate:  Oh my gosh! How exciting is that? Have you done this your whole life?


Mary:  Yes, since I was 26.


Kate:  Was it like a childhood dream?


Mary:  No, it was divine intervention.


Kate:  Okay! Well, tell us.


Mary:  I got out of high school. I was going to get married and have kids. I didn’t get married and have kids, so, I went to work. Then the steel mills went under because of foreign imports. Then I took a job with my husband’s credit union. I wanted to run for the board of directors. They told me if I run for the board of directors, they would fire me. In the meantime, they gave the air traffic controller’s test out. But you had to die in order to get a job. So then, I went to work, and then the strike came, and I got hired — divine intervention.


Kate:  Wow! I think it sounds super-fascinating. So, you said you have your commercial license, as well. Did you fly as a pilot then for an airline?


Mary:  No, you have different ratings. So, you have a private pilot’s license, and then you have an instrument rating, and then you have a commercial pilot’s license. It’s just a rating.


Kate: Oh, okay, I see. I bet you have some pretty interesting stories from your days as an air traffic controller.


Mary:  Oh, I do. Now, they have this thing called ATC live where you can listen. Back in my day, they didn’t. So, I could say whatever I wanted and not get caught.


Kate:  So, anybody can listen to air traffic controllers, is that what you’re saying?


Mary:  Yes! Yes!


Kate:  What? I didn’t know this.


Mary:  See? You don’t even have to be in an airplane.


Kate:  Oh, my goodness! That’s amazing. So how do you do that?


Mary:  Download the app, I guess, ATC Live.


Kate:  ATC Live.


Mary:  Or Live ATC … it’s one of the two.


Kate:  Okay, wow! So, you’re a pilot. You’re an air traffic controller. What else?


Mary:  I’m a homeopath. So, I mean, talk about oxymorons. I mean, that is yin and yang. They’re two different brains.


Kate:  How did that happen?


Mary:  Well, my husband retired when he was 50, and he wanted a dog. I said I didn’t want a dog. But my girlfriend had this Dalmatian, and she had two little boys, and Dalmatians are very high energy. She gave the dog up, and she was the sweetest dog. I said, “I cannot believe you gave that dog up.”


She said, “I can’t believe you wanted her.”


So, she got the dog back, and we adopted her dog after six months. She was six months old when we got her.


So, she had these terrible allergies. I took her to the special vet. They shaved her hind legs, stuck with 57 needles, told me I had to feed her kangaroo or moose, gave me two vials to give her a needle twice a day. Six months later and a thousand dollars, she was just as bad if not worse. They said, “Well, it’s not an exact science.”


Kate:  I think that’s a pretty common story, what you’re saying. Our dog had allergies, kind of the similar thing. So, I think you’re speaking to the masses here.


Mary:  Exactly. Which is why Joette’s course on allergies is fabulous, and as long as somebody’s going to practice, it might as well be you.


Kate:  Yeah. So, that’s how you originally got into homeopathy?


Mary:  I did. There’s a vet called Dr. Khalsa who is brilliant that came from New England. I took my dog to her, and that’s how I started it. Then I found this study group in ’93, and it went on from there.


Kate:  When you say, “this study group,” was there a group of local people studying homeopathy together? Is that what you mean?


Mary:  Yes. So, like Joette, we had a teacher. We would go to her house, and we’d take cases and study remedies. It was amazing.


Kate:  So, you started studying with this group of people and learning classical homeopathy.


Mary:  Correct. Then somewhere along the line, we found Joette. I think one of our study group members brought in the thing for Gateway I, and I was a study group leader. Then we took Gateway I, and then we took Gateway II.


Kate:  Oh, so you were completing Gateway I, and then Gateway II came out right after that?


Mary:  Yes, yes.


Kate:  Did you find, as someone who had studied homeopathy for quite some time, that it was too basic, or did you still learn quite a bit?


Mary:  In homeopathy, you’re always learning. We learned every remedy part she puts out. Like the insomnia — the Arnica 200 for insomnia — who knew? I’ve been studying for 25 years or so, I’ve never known that. And the protocol for fleas? Nobody knows that either. It’s always interesting.


Kate:  Yes, she has so many free things on her website that you really could just study that and learn a ton without even taking a course.


Mary:  Right. So now, we do our own study group, but then we do Joette’s study group. We’ll do a Zoom class just like we’re doing now. We’d take some of her podcasts, and we’ll pick them apart.


Kate:  So, you guys are just going through some of the podcasts or blogs and talking about the different things that you’re learning there and just having discussions around those then?


Mary:  Yes, there’s just so much information that you miss some of it. So, by having a study group, and everybody bringing something to the table, then what you might have missed, somebody might say.


Kate:  I find every time I go through the Gateway book, I learn something or I remember something. It’s always super useful. So, you can never read things too many times. We just did another podcast with another woman who said she read Dorothy Shepherd’s book over … I think it was … eight times or something like that. Then on the eighth time is when she caught something that she had never seen before.


Homeopathy’s role in an air traffic controller’s life


So, Mary, when we were talking earlier, you were saying about being an air traffic controller, and why homeopathy is so important to you. Tell us a little bit more about that.


Mary:  Whether you’re an air traffic controller or you’re a pilot (whether it is as a commercial pilot for the airlines or a private pilot that just flies around for fun), you have to take a flight physical once a year. The important things for that is that as an air traffic controller, if you can’t pass a physical, you don’t have a job. As a pilot, if you don’t pass the physical, you don’t have a job. So, for instance, back in the day before I knew homeopathy, I would take Flexeril for lower back pain. You cannot work for a week after you take that Flexeril. You have to stay home.


Kate:  Really?


Mary:  Really. And if you take DayQuil for a cold, I think it’s three days — you can’t fly for three days after you take DayQuil.


Kate:  So, that tells you how long that stays in your body, right?


Mary:  It just tells you: you don’t want to be taking it.


Kate:  That’s right. You don’t want to be taking it.


Mary:  You don’t want to be taking it. I mean, they’re just a few examples. Your best thing is to just be well, and homeopathy helps you do that.


Kate:  Exactly. So, give us some other examples of some of the ways that you’ve used homeopathy over the years.


Mary:  Back in the beginning before I had learned homeopathy myself, I had a godchild. She was born five pounds, nine ounces. A month later, this child is five pounds, nine ounces. So, you know that’s not good, right?


Kate:  Right.


Mary:  So, the allopathic people took her off the breast milk, put her on rice. Anyway, we took her to this homeopathic doctor. He gave her one dose of Nux vomica, and in one day, she gained FOUR ounces! How do you explain that?


Kate:  Wow! That’s incredible!


Mary:  I know. You want to see her now. She’s 18 years old. She’s beautiful.


Kate:  That makes me wonder why they gave her Nux vomica. Yeah, very interesting. So that got you really intrigued then.


Mary:  Absolutely. So, I took my girlfriend to the same doctor. She couldn’t even breathe to get up the stairs. I think he gave her Crataegus, and it was like a light bulb went off. She was, like, so light after that. You could just tell in her face that it just changed something.


Car accident


Mary:  So, I have to tell you about my car accident.


Kate:  Oh! That doesn’t sound good.


Mary:  It wasn’t. December 8th, we were coming home from a Christmas party. I was driving down a dry road, and this 19-year-old T-boned me doing 40 miles an hour. Now, I had my tonsils out when I was 22 (before homeopathy). I wouldn’t have done it now. But at 22 was the last time I was in the hospital. So, at 65, I took my first ambulance ride.


Kate:  Oh, my gosh!


Mary:  They used the Jaws of Life® to get me out. I broke my wrist in two places. I called my sister at 10:30 at night and I said …


(All my siblings have homeopathic kits. We can talk about that because there’s nothing more frustrating than somebody to call you for their advice, and you tell them what to take, and they don’t have it. So, I agree with Joette. Everybody needs a homeopathic kit.)


So anyway, I was looking for Arnica.


Now, they’re going to do a CT scan — which I’m not fond of. They’re going to put an IV in me — which I’m not fond of. So, I take the Aconite, and within seconds, I was calm enough for them to work on me.


Then I took the Arnica. I would go into, like, shock, and I would take the Arnica, and then it would go away. So, it’s just amazing! I don’t know what would have happened if I didn’t have my sister and my kit after this accident.


Kate:  Oh, my gosh! I feel like you are very blessed to be alive after that accident. I’m sure there was a lot of bruising, but the only broken bones were your wrist?


Mary:  Well, I think I had my left hand on my thigh because that was the only thing that was bruised, probably ribs and my thigh. I think the armrest got me. So, he T-boned me, and the armrest got me, and that’s how I broke my wrist.


Kate:  Wow! That’s so scary. So, Arnica and Aconite for accidents. Oh, you just never want to be without them!


Mary:  Never, never! Well, that’s what Joette said, “Put the Aconite in your handbag.” That’s the first remedy she talked about because we just talked about this in our study group: Aconite 200 in your handbag — always.


Kate:  Exactly.


Mary:  But, I have to tell you another funny story. My sister was expecting her first grandchild. Now, she’s in Pennsylvania, and her son and his wife are in Texas. So, she makes an airplane reservation for Friday, and this is Wednesday. The doctor says there’s no action here. So, the daughter-in-law calls my sister and says, “Can you change your reservation because the baby won’t be here by the time you get here?”


So, I called my friends in Texas, and I said, “Do you have health food stores?”


And they said, “Mary, of course. Texas is, like, the epicenter of alternative medicine.”


I called the food store, and I wanted Caulophyllum 30C. I took a picture of it. I sent it to my niece. I told her, “You walk in the store. It’s on aisle 4A on the third shelf.” I sent her the picture.


Well, do you know by the time my sister got there, the baby was there?


Kate:  Wow!


Mary:  So yes, I mean just exciting stuff.


Childbirth story, cell salts, & Arnica


Mary:  My girlfriend’s daughter was having her fifth child. They sent the husband home, and my girlfriend went in, and she said, “Are you going to have this baby, or aren’t you?” (I don’t remember what we gave her. It might have been the Caulophyllum.) She said, “Yes,” but for whatever reason she was afraid this time. (I mean, your fifth child, you would figure you wouldn’t be afraid.) I don’t remember what we gave her, but we gave her a remedy.


Ten minutes … they delivered that baby in the bed.


So much fun!


Kate:  Oh, my gosh! That’s great. Things went really well?


Mary:  Absolutely!


Kate:  Oh, my goodness, yeah, ten minutes.


So, jumping back a little bit to the Gateway II study group that you did, I know you said you enjoyed some particular sections of that study guide. So, tell me a little bit more about that.


Mary:  Well, we probably did that a couple of months ago. But what we found very interesting is that they just resonated with those cell salts. Everybody went out and bought it: cell salt travel kit [No longer available.] Everybody found a different use for them just like me with my homeopathic kit. So many people went and bought their children the cell salt kits because Joette just puts such a different spin on it that we don’t really even think about cell salts so much. But my broken wrist, I still have a lot of edema in my fingers, and so I use the Nat sulph for the edema on that. That seems to be helpful.


Kate:  So, Nat sulph 6X, then?


Mary:  Yes, correct.


Kate:  Yeah, there is a ton of information in that cell salt section. I know it’s a lot to get through in one study group session even, but there are so many things that you could pick out of there that apply to your life. I always talk about when we were going through that whole section now, “Don’t think you have to take every cell salt. Because you’re going to find something, as we’re talking about each of the cell salts, that you feel like applies to you.” Did you guys find that also?


Mary:  Absolutely.


Kate:  Yeah. So, are there other things that you found, are there other examples maybe from that, that you wanted to talk about?


Mary:  I remember my cousin. He was like four years old, ran into the corner of a table. I had the birthing kit with me. It had Arnica 200 in it. This child screamed at the top of his lungs. I took out that Arnica and popped it in his mouth. I mean, seriously it’s a wonderful thing.


So, there was a guy that fell here. The dog tripped him, and he had this goose egg. You would not believe how big his goose egg was. I gave him Arnica 200. He ended up with nothing.


Kate:  I’ve watched that happen too. My son fell backwards when he was young. He was standing on a chair, and he fell backwards, and there’s concrete. He hit his head on that concrete. He had a goose egg on his head. He felt dizzy. I gave him Arnica 200 a couple of times, and I watched that goose egg go down. It just went away.


Mary:  And it works great for animals, too. I started talking about the dog, but I had this horse that was a champion. He whacked his head on the barn door. So, his head was tilted. His owner brought me over to see him, and we gave him Nat sulph. He got so much better. I mean, he was like normal after that.


The amazing thing about animals … I don’t know whether you ever did this or not … but my girlfriend’s dog needed Ignatia. Everybody had left her, and she was feeling lonely or some. So, we put it in a bowl.


Do you know they know when to go re-dose themselves?


Kate:  No, I haven’t thought about that.


Mary:  Yeah, if you put down their water bowl and a homeopathic bowl with remedy in it, they’ll take it when they need it. They do.


Kate:  Wow! I’ve always just thought about putting it in a bowl of water, but that is a great tip. Give them their bowl of water and then another bowl with the remedy that they need. They have such innate senses that we can’t even begin to understand probably. They know what they need.


Mary:  Exactly. And the children, they’re pretty intuitive too. I have friends’ children that they will just ask for a remedy. They won’t even ask for an antibiotic or any kind of allopathic medicine.


Kate:  That’s awesome.


Mary:  My girlfriend’s grandchildren, they’ll just go over, and they’ll pick which one they need.


Kate:  This is such a fascinating journey to be on with homeopathy. There is so much to learn.


Mary:  Well, you’re a lot younger than me, and your children are young. So, I mean, how cool is it that they learn homeopathy? No, seriously!


Kate:  Yeah. I think of all those that are younger than myself. They’re starting out their kids, and they’ve never had a drug. That’s such a good thing. I didn’t know about homeopathy until my kids were … I think definitely under ten. We had used antibiotics. But you can’t be too hard on yourself for what has happened in the past. You just have to move on.


Mary:  Yes, keep learning, keep reading and buy a homeopathic kit so you’re prepared.


Kate:  Right.


Mary:  I told you about my accident. Last week, we took a ride and my brother-in-law was driving. He was not going fast enough to get through this intersection. I guess I had a flashback of the fear from the accident. So, I slept 24 hours, I was so sick.


Kate:  Oh, no!


Mary:  I thought I just had a cold. Yeah, well see, this is what happened. You have a cold, so you go through the cold remedies. Now, you’re trying to figure it out.


But once I slept for 24 hours, it dawned on me that that came after the fright. You know? So, I took Aconite 200, and I got better. Just like that. I mean, it’s amazing!


Kate:  Oh, wow! So, you had taken a bunch of the remedies for cold, but until you took the Aconite, that’s when it really just kicked it.


Mary:  Oh, yeah, I took Allium cepa. I took a combination, you know. I had whatever I had here in Florida and figured out the Aconite. It just turned it around. I was better in like a nanosecond. It’s amazing.


Kate:  That has happened to me before when I’ve not gotten enough sleep or one of my kids … You know how you’re on a vacation or maybe they go to a camp or something like that, and then they get sick following that event? You have to think always with homeopathy about what led up to you getting sick because there might be some tips, just like you said. After you thought about it a little bit more, you came down with that after that frightful experience.


Just like my kids got sick after staying up all night at camp. So then, I would always be sure to give them the Nux vomica. Because Nux vomica is great for overdoing it: not enough sleep; you’re overdoing things just pushing too hard. I feel like I’m living on Nux vomica right now honestly. Actually, I pondered this this morning. If I keep pushing my body and not getting enough sleep and take Nux vomica everyday, how long can I go before my body is just going to be, like, “Okay, you know what, this is too much.”?


Keep learning, keep sharing and keep a remedy kit


All right, so Mary, in conclusion, give us some words of wisdom.


Mary:  I’m not going to do the math, but I’ve been studying homeopathy since ’93. So, it’s a pretty long time. Even after all these years, we can always learn something. So, my first advice is to always keep learning and share with other people and have a homeopathic kit.


When we were talking earlier, you were talking about your mom, and you said you had picked all these remedies for your mom. Then you got verification from somebody that was more experienced than you, and you had picked all the right remedies. You just needed that verification that you’re okay, and what you picked was okay.


So, that’s all the new people need … is for somebody else like you and me to say, “That’s a great choice. If it doesn’t work, call me back, and we’ll find something else.” That’s how we’re going to spread homeopathy and keep everybody well and not at the doctors’ offices.


Kate:  Yeah, awesome. Well, thank you, Mary. It’s been a pleasure meeting you and hearing about your stories. I think I could talk to you for hours probably about all the different things that you could share after having used homeopathy for so many years — and your air traffic controller stories. I’m sure you have more fun stories there.


But thank you for spending the time with us today and sharing with the listeners from your experience.


Mary:  Thank you, Kate.


Kate:  You just listened to a podcast from PracticalHomeopathy.com where nationally certified homeopath, public speaker, and author, Joette Calabrese shares her passion for helping families stay strong through homeopathy. Joette’s podcasts are available on iTunes, Google Play, Blueberry, Stitcher, and TuneIn radio.

Thank you for listening to this podcast with Joette Calabrese. To learn more and find out if homeopathy is a good fit in your health strategy, visit PracticalHomeopathy.com.



These Moms with Moxie podcasts are designed to be inspirational, not specifically educational. No Remedy Card is provided.




Joette laughingI am a homeopath with a worldwide practice working with families and individuals via Zoom. I'm also a teacher and most importantly, a mom who raised my now-adult children depending on homeopathy over the last 31 years. I lived decades of my life with food intolerances, allergies, and chemical sensitivities until I was cured with homeopathy, so I understand pain, anxiety, and suffering. You may feel that your issues are more severe or different than anyone else’s, but I have seen it all in my practice and in my work in India. My opinion is that nothing has come close to the reproducible, safe and effective results that my clients, students and I have achieved with homeopathy.

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1 thought on “Podcast 72 – Moms with Moxie: Air Traffic Controller, Pilot and Homeopath”

  1. Deborah Klein says:

    What a beautiful soul you are, Mary! And Joette, and Kate, too. Keep on shinning. Be Blessed and Hare Krishna.

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